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Old 06-25-2008   #1
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So, we are a couple of days away from the Calabogie weekend. I know for sure that Michel, David, Hugo, Marc-André and myself will be there. Anybody else we shall meet at that event?
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Old 06-26-2008   #2
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Hi Lee,

The Stang & I will be there

Hopefully we won't have to run rain tires the whole weekend !
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Me. I'll be driving there tonight, but it will be tomorrow when I arrive.

Friday should be good, but sat&sun look like rain. I just dicovered that 225/35r18s fit on my mini, so my rain tires are relative steam rollers. For a mini. On the other hand the tread is brand new. 8-)
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Dunlop racing rain tires of any size will make you look like Senna in the rain.

I hope you guys don't see too much rain, but then it's an Audi event so most of the participants are not going to park their cars anyway.

I'll see ya'll at Tremblant for 10-11.
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I'll be there.

First time at Calabogie and it's going to rain, that will be fun .

Well hopefully Sunday will be dry.
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I drove the track in the rain. Don't worry. It still sticks. Look for the 10' x 30' Boondock Motorsport lounge if you get soaked in the paddocks.
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Marc-André R. and his WRX STi will be there too. He left on Thursday to start driving that new track on Friday.

Hugo and I are meeting around noon on Friday. Set-up the trailer and head to BMW Laval to mount some tires. Then off to Calabogie around 4PM

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Calabogie is very good in the rain. The drainage is good and the surface has plenty of grip. If it rains a lot stay away from the entry of the kink (corner 1). Stay in the middle of the track away from the puddle.
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Any tips on keeping your gear dry at Calabogie in the wet?

I think I have the basics covered , Box, Tarp, Rain Poncho, and Rubbers (for my feet of course )
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With a paved paddock all you need is a good tarp to cover your stuff. Or you can go the sissy man route. A covered trailer for the event.
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We had a 10' x 10' and 10' x 20' canopies. Great to keep cool under the sun, and dry when it rains. BTW That was a great event, very well organized as usually, by the Audi crew. They had plenty of qualified instructors, plus an instructor training program in full fledge.
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We had a 10' x 10' and 10' x 20' canopies. Great to keep cool under the sun, and dry when it rains. BTW That was a great event, very well organized as usually, by the Audi crew. They had plenty of qualified instructors, plus an instructor training program in full fledge.
How was the turnout?
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45 students and around 22 instructors.
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45 students and around 22 instructors.
Ouch. For a weekend, this had to be a money-loser, maybe a big money loser.

DE events are not filling up right across North America, a dramatic change from a decade ago.

BMW CQ and BMW CC need to be mindful of this worrisome trend.

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There's indeed a trend where people don't drive the distance to a remote track. Which is why I have previously highlighted that chapters must develop a local drivers and instructors base for local tracks. We are blessed with LCMT, iCar and Calabogie. So, we can have all the fun without driving longer than 300 Kms (Calabogie), 125 kms (LCMT) or 40 kms iCar.

People towing their track cars will also get hurt more. A 600 km trip at 10mpg can be very costly.

BTW If you want to have a good laugh. Take a look here.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/i...deo_168752.htm
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Originally Posted by Lee BTW If you want to have a good laugh. Take a look here.
[URL="http://videos.streetfire.net/video/icar-crash-video_168752.htm"
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OK, Its wet. But this is the second FSAQ video I've seen recently and I can't beleive the poor judgment and skill of some of the competitors.

I'm glad I've stayed away from racing with them.

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Ouch. For a weekend, this had to be a money-loser, maybe a big money loser.

DE events are not filling up right across North America, a dramatic change from a decade ago.

BMW CQ and BMW CC need to be mindful of this worrisome trend.

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The crummy American economy doesn't help either and the price of gas. Now a track weekend can cost an extra 100-200$ just in Gas.
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I had some gasoline sticker shock. I spent about $200 in gas at the track (it's a mini, remember), and something like $400 getting there and back. $600, just for gasoline. Ouch.

Lift rotate works really well in the rain over a hump. I managed to rotate 3 times with just one lift. I put two wheels off. First the rear wheels. Then the front wheels. Then the rear wheels. Then the front wheels. Then the rear wheels. Then the front wheels. Then I was pointed the right way with the front wheels on pavement and off I went. To get the slicks off my car. (rain just starting. made the wrong wets/drys call.)

I literally said "grip is really pretty good" and spun within 3 seconds. I decided the track was good after all, reverted to dry driving, and whee!

Lots of good learning experiences in my life.
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I had some gasoline sticker shock. I spent about $200 in gas at the track (it's a mini, remember), and something like $400 getting there and back. $600, just for gasoline. Ouch.

Lift rotate works really well in the rain over a hump. I managed to rotate 3 times with just one lift. I put two wheels off. First the rear wheels. Then the front wheels. Then the rear wheels. Then the front wheels. Then the rear wheels. Then the front wheels. Then I was pointed the right way with the front wheels on pavement and off I went. To get the slicks off my car. (rain just starting. made the wrong wets/drys call.)

I literally said "grip is really pretty good" and spun within 3 seconds. I decided the track was good after all, reverted to dry driving, and whee!

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Racing in the wet is:

a) really intense

b) really expensive

c) really stupid

d) all of the above.
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Racing in the wet is:

a) really intense

b) really expensive

c) really stupid

d) all of the above.
Hi Phil, do you really sit out the rain for racing? Don't even bother with rain tires?

Mike Morris told me he does this. Even if he wanted to drive in the rain, there are all those other guys... In DE conditions I can (should be able to) control my own driving. In a race in the rain, bumper cars seems pretty common.

I'd been planning to go out in rain/snow/plagues of scorpions and so on, but maybe my plans were expensive and stupid.



On another topic, the -amazing- thunder shower which hit calabogie at the end of sunday had localized cousins all the way over the mountains in new hampshire. Gosh I just love hydroplaning over rivers I can't see in the dark when I'm towing. I'd been doing a constant 119kph until I got up into the white mountains and my first hydroplaning adventure. Ooops. Slow down. Then it happened again. Slow down more. The tires on my x5 are still legal, but they might be in a landfill pretty soon.

I dropped my trailer off at Schneller around midnight. Home around 1:30am. I think if home had been 10 miles further I would have had to get a motel 10 minutes from my house. Calabogie is just exactly at my limit for driving home after an event.
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